Re: [trafficsafety] 'Negligent Collision' fine

Thanks Aaron,

I like the idea of keeping a bicycle weight in the equation ... yea, I know
that the fine will be minimal. But it would still be unbised application to
*all* legal vehicles.

One not so obvious thing that I thought of today ... if a person is finned
$10000 ... they most likely will have to sell that expensive vehicle and seek
a cheaper form of transportation. Not to ring my own bell ... but ...
subversively genius I tell ya!

jasun

On Tuesday 19 September 2006 22:55, Aaron wrote:
> I very much like what has been written. Very good ideas and well
> thought out. Definately the vehicle's weight should be put into the
> equation.
> A few thoughts
> A bicycle which strikes a pedestrian (almost never) would not create
> much of a fine, since a bicycle only weighs 20-40 lbs more than a
> pedestrian. The main advantage of a bicycle is that it provides high
> inertia for very little weight/effort. Maybe double the weight-fee for
> bicycle imposed crashes (of courese it would have to not be biased to
> place the bike at fault all the time).
> Second there are some people who learn from paying a fine, but there are
> many who don't. I think that the idea of revoking the license of a
> dangerous driver (repeat offender) and offereing a driver-safety course
> (or forced volunteer time helping bikes) as an alternative would be very
> helpful
>
> Aaron Tarfman
> Transportation Diplomat
> www.yourbodypower.org
>
> "It's amazing to me that people can save $7000 a year by making a simple
> lifestyle change."
>
> Jasun Wurster wrote:
> >I think that a 'Vehicular Homicide' law is great ... for those that are
> > lucky enough to be killed. However, this would be useless to those that
> > survive a collision. More so, not provide an educational component to
> > help reduce negligence by vehicle operators on public roads.
> >
> >Here is what I would like to see:
> >
> >A 'Negligent Collision' fine. The fine is applied to any vehicle operator
> > that is responsible for a collision caused by negligence.
> >
> >The fine is based on a formula that penalizes heavier and larger vehicles.
> > The reason for this is that if 5000 pound SUV collides with a Motorcycle.
> > The damage caused to the motorcyclist is most likely far more severe.
> > Another situation where this law would proportionally penalize negligence
> > is if a Bicycle has a collision with a Pedestrian.
> >
> >The formula I have been thinking of is one that takes the difference of
> > the larger vehicles weight times $1 dollar. An example is that the
> > operator of a 5000 pound SUV is negligence and collides with a Pedestrian
> > ... $5000 fine. If the collision that caused was caused by negligence is
> > severe enough and causes a fatality. Then a multiplexer of 5 is applied
> > to the fine.
> >
> >Vehicles who's GVW (gross vehicle weight) that are with in 20% of each
> > other have the fine based on the larger vehicle. This provides a fine for
> > two similar vehicles when the lesser weighing vehicle was at fault. If
> > the lesser vehicle is at fault ... I have not figured this out yet.
> >
> >All money collected from the fine goes to a state fund in which provides
> >grants to organizations to reduce collisions on public roadways. May this
> > be through education or infrastructure.
> >
> >A few reasons why I like this idea. The name, Negligent Collision, is a
> > proper description of why the person is getting fined. It also reinforces
> > why “accidents” happen.
> >
> >The fine covers all vehicle operators and is not just bicycle centric.
> > This makes it more appealing to every vehicle operator.
> >
> >The fines are meant to be large, this money will cause a substantial
> > financial strain, which it is meant to do. The financial penalization is
> > economically proportional. Generally those that can afford to fuel and
> > pay for a 5000 pound SUV have the money to pay higher fines.
> >
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