RE: [trafficsafety] First, what is the problem ... then we can find a solution

I may be way out of line here, so shut me up if I'm wrong but...

1) Hal, please reconsider.
2) Brian, please reconsider your position as well.

This list needs people with Hal's experience and judgment.

This list, being so new, also needs to find it's direction before it can
move forward. I don't think Hal's post was meant in a bickering manner. I
interpreted Hal's post as meaning that he thought the previous poster was,
perhaps, naïve in his thinking and maybe needed to refine/reconsider his
position.

It seems to me that many of us are working through our emotions as well as
opinions on the current state of traffic safety (or lack thereof). I think
the discourse, at this stage in the list's life, is really necessary.
Polite and respectful discourse, of course, as all opinions should be
valued, even when one disagrees with the stated opinion. But we need to
flesh out the direction that members want to go in, and the results folks
hope to achieve.

Before we become a "working group", we need to figure out what we want to
work ON. If we can't debate that direction, we won't be effective.

JMHO.

Susan

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Ballard [mailto:bicyclist@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:25 PM
To: 'Brian Scrivner'; trafficsafety@lists.riseup.net
Subject: RE: [trafficsafety] First, what is the problem ... then we can find
a solution

Brian,

Remove me from the list.

It is biased and one sided and not open to any criticism.

“The thing is, “You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to
hear. You dig?” (the Rock man from “The Point” by Harry Nilsson)

Hal Ballard
Chair, WashCo BTC
LCI 815 C, M
“I ride my bicycle to ride my bicycle” ~Zen proverb

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